nabi adam di turunkan ke bumi bersama ular juga

by abu_aisyah Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:00 pm

as-salamu 'alaikum,

benarkah nabi adam diturunkan dibumi bersama iblis dan ular?

ada kaitan hadis dibawah ini?dimana rasulullah membunuh semua ular?

ما سالمناهنٌ منذ حاربناهنٌ
"Kami tidak pernah berdamai dengannya (ular) sejak kami bermusuhan dengannya" (hadis sahih,riwayat abu dawud no 5248 dan lain dari abu Hurairah)

by **Nizam** Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:45 pm

Waalaikumsalam

Ni ana jumpa dari islamqa

It was narrated that al-Hasan al-Basri said: Adam came down in India and Hawwa’ in Jeddah, and Iblees in Dastumeesaan a few miles from Basrah, and the serpent came down in Asbahaan. This was narrated by Ibn Abi Haatim.

Serpent tu rasanya ular kot

Fatwa penuh http://islamqa.info/en/ref/141280

Pun begitu di akhir fatwa ada menyebut

But all of these are words for which there is no evidence.

Ana try cari kat sumber lain

by **Nizam** Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:50 pm

Dari islamweb

Referring to this, Al-Qurtubi transmitted on the authority of Wahb ibn Munabbih that the accursed Satan entered Paradise hiding in the mouth of a she-snake. After she had entered Paradise, he left her body, took from the fruit of the tree that Allaah The Almighty had forbidden Aadam and Hawwaa’, may Allaah exalt their mention, to eat from, then he first whispered to Hawwaa’,may Allaah exalt her mention, who ate from it. After that, he directed himself towards Aadam and enticed him. In this regard, it was also said that Hawwaa’ encouraged Aadam, may Allaah exalt their mention, to eat from the tree and told him that she had eaten from it but had not been harmed. After eating from the tree, their private parts appeared to them and they, therefore, became sinners. Afterwards, Allaah The Almighty ordered Aadam to descend to the earth from which he had been created. The snake was cursed after this incident and enmity was planted between her and the offspring of Aadam forever and, therefore, we are commanded to kill snakes.

http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=28220

by **Nizam** Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:51 pm

Cuma sumber mana tak tau

by **thtl** Fri Nov 01, 2013 9:31 pm

abu,
hadis Abu Daud itu tak ada kaitan dgn ular Nabi Adam.
Nabi hanya perintah membunuh uar yg bisa sahaja di tanah arab spt rattle snake,
Nizam, apa yg anda nukilkan itulah yg dinamakan sumber Israeliyat.

by **Nizam** Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:50 am

by abu_aisyah Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:09 am

kisah israiliyat itu bercanggah dengan al-quran kan?maka ditolak?

by **thtl** Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:07 am

manhaj salafiyah tawaqquf (silence mode) dgn kisah2 Israeliyat, kecuali yang datang dari mulut Nabi saw sendiri..apa yg ada dalam kitab2 Injil dan Taurat, kita no comment. Tapi kita tidak sebarkan kpd org Islam.

by **ummuyaser** Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:22 pm

Bagaimana pula dengan hadith Rasulullah saw yang berbunyi;

ورواه البخاري من حديث عبد الله بن عمرو بلفظ: "بلغوا عني ولو آية، وحدثوا عن بني إسرائيل ولا حرج، ومن كذب علي متعمداً، فليتبوأ مقعده من النار".

"Sampaikanlah daripada Ku walaupun satu ayat. Dan bawakanlah cerita dari Bani Israel , tidak mengapa, barangsiapa yang berdusta atas namaku secara nekad maka bersedialah tempat duduknya di Neraka"?

Apakah maksud hadith ni dalam perkara menukilkan sesuatu dari Bani Israel, ye?

by **thtl** Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:51 pm

UY,
kisah Israeiyat yg Nabi saw maksudkan tu yg ada sanad (disahkan sahih atau hasan oleh ulamak ahli sunnah yg ada autoriti), yg ada manfaat utk dijadikan teladan. Cthnya: tongkat Musa ni kayu jenis apa, anjing ashabul Kahfi ni kaler apa dan jenis apa? apa nama burung yg dicincang oleh Ibrahim AS dan dihidupkan semula oleh Allah. ini semua kisah yg tak ada manfaat tapi ada dalam kitab Yahudi..

by Pidot Sun Nov 10, 2013 9:02 am

setahu saya..dalam Bible 2 Corinthians ada dikisahkan syaitan menyerupai ular ketika menghasut Eve dan Adam.. -penekanan:kisah dalam Bible sahaja..di dalam Bible word serpent selalu dikaitkan dengan ular... WA

*betulkan jika saya silap.